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IE8 beta 2 initial thoughts (1 of n)

When the first beta for IE8 was announced I rushed out, downloaded it and installed it eager to see what the IE team had been up to ... Well let's just say that the beta lasted about 5 days on my machine before it was removed. The best thing about beta 1 was the uninstaller that actually removed all traces of the beta properly.

So when beta 2 of IE8 was announced last week it was with some skepticism that I hit the download link, and with even more doubt that I installed it.

My initial thoughts aren't bad, but they aren't great either! Whilst (so far) it seems more stable than the first beta there are still some things that are pesky and annoying at best, and others that simply make the product unusable and are coercing me to try and see if the uninstaller for the second beta is as good as the first was.

Firstly, it's VERY aggressive use of resources drives me bonkers! I like tabbed browsers as I can fire up tabs in the background and let them load peacefully and read them when i get around to it. Well, lemme rephrase that, I like tabbed browsing when using firefox, opera, or safari, but NOT when using IE. (and yes I am running them all to compare 1 browser to another, comparing apples with apples if you like). The reason being is the IE8 just kills my machine when opening more than 1 tab. I know sometimes I can get carried away having as many as 20+ tabs open, but firefox (my current browser of choice) handles this just fine. IE8 beta 2 doesn't! In fact any more than 3 tabs and you're starting to ask for trouble.

tabs open

 

This shows a screenshot from this morning; with a mere 11 tabs open Smile

IE memory usage

321 Meg being consumed by iexplore!?!?! That's a little extreme guys ... i mean come on! That's more than 30 meg per tab! Does IE simply fire up a new "instance" of itself per tab?

Here's a comparison between IE and Firefox with the exact same tabs open, notice the difference ...

ie and ff comparison

Firefox here is using only 80Meg vs IE's massive 225! That's a difference of close to 300%. Ridiculous if you ask me.

 

Aside from the annoying aggressive use of my system resources some other quirky things bug me about IE; like the silly green color of the tabs. What's this about? At first i thought it was an attempt to indicate unread vs read tabs like Firefox does via a few nice addins, but alas no. There appears to be no way to remove the pesky green color.

green tabs

Compare this again to the stock standard Firefox way ...

ff tabs

the inactive tabs appear in a darker grey and the active tab appears with a lighter background color as well as the close button highlighting nicely so at a glance you can see which is the active tab. This is the stock standard firefox behavior, adding some nice tab add-ins can get you a much more custom experience.

 

So thus far my feelings on IE8 aren't great!

I'd love to hear what others out there think of the browser.

Next time I will focus more on the features of the product from a developers point of view and will touch on things like standards compliance etc. So watch this space.

Posted: Sep 01 2008, 08:46 AM by Ryan CrawCour | with 9 comment(s)
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Ryan CrawCour said:

senkwe;

Thanks for the comments;

The "Awesome Bar" was going to be part of my next installment of the things i do actually like about IE8 (yes there are a few).

# September 1, 2008 2:58 PM

Robert MacLean said:

"Does IE simply fire up a new "instance" of itself per tab?" - It does. The IE team lously coupled the tabs from everything else so that privacy could be kept high and reliability is kept high (i.e. one tab can crash without crashing others) blogs.msdn.com/.../ie8-and-reliability.aspx

"like the silly green color of the tabs. What's this about?" - That is a new concept they have introduced to group common tabs together. If you open a new tab by right clicking a link and selecting new tab, it puts them together and makes them the same colours. I have gotten to having silver, green, and blue all at once. blogs.msdn.com/.../part-i-better-everyday-browsing.aspx

My thoughts: I ran IE8 b1 for a long time and loved it. IE8 b2 feels much slower and a bigger resource hog (It uses only around 2.5% of my RAM on average, but thats about double than IE B1). My biggest gripe is the slowness of rending pages with repeating background images, it seems to load them like loading a JPEG of a hottie on a 56k modem... too slow. The best new feature for me is the compatibility view button next to the refresh button which allows the page to be rendered in IE7 mode. It does it instantly with no restart, unlike IE8 b1!

# September 2, 2008 7:14 AM

Robert MacLean said:

Oh and since you asked about other browsers, seems Google is getting into the act: www.winsupersite.com/.../google_chrome_preview.asp

# September 2, 2008 7:14 AM

benniewentzel said:

found startups slow at first, but getting used to and liking the faster browsing speeds. Ms always supprise me with the simplicity in adding new features, with none being "in-your-face". Useability allround is good, and I think they should be sorting out the little memory problems shortly.

Must say that I have been more inclined to use IE since the latest beta, but I cant wait for the real war to start between google chrome vs IE vs Firefox. Should inforce for some interesting developments soon...

# September 2, 2008 12:05 PM

Ryan CrawCour said:

Can anybody explain the sometimes green tab bar, and sometimes red? today i noticed the tabs were red, yeterday they were green.... hmmmm

I am a tad skeptical about yet another browser entering the market that does stuff in yet another different way so whilst the world go nuts over the promise of chrome i must say i aint going to rush out and download it. life as a developer of web content is already too much of a nightmare having to worry about 10+ different browers (or their own manifestations) to consider yet another.

And really, the claims that Chrome leads the way to a world without Windows is just madness at best ... what do they think Chrome is going to run ON TOP of?

# September 2, 2008 5:27 PM

Ryan CrawCour said:

Rob;

I figured out the way IE decides to position my tabs; it's annoying actually because i struggle to find where it puts them. The grouping is an interesting idea, but i'd prefer to have the option of chosing how it should behave ... as in Firefox, you can tell it where to put new tabs etc.

The color thing still drives me nuts; it makes my screen look like a smartie box. Jeesh.

# September 3, 2008 8:24 AM

Robert MacLean said:

Agree, which is why one of the few things I still use in IEPro (www.ie7pro.com) is their tab ordering controls ;)

# September 3, 2008 1:20 PM

Justin said:

Lies. There is a fairly easy way to remove the 'pesky green color'. First of all, it's not always that shade of green. I've opened 2 links from your page and I got a light green and yellow; There's different colors.

To remove the tab grouping, go to tools> Internet Options. On the 'General' tab, under the tabs group, click settings. Uncheck 'Enable tab groups'.

I found out you can also disable tabbed browsing o.O

# September 12, 2008 12:06 PM
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